The War Nerd Iliad

The War Nerd Iliad The War Nerd takes on Homer in a new translation a classic gory funny tragic story in today s language

  • Title: The War Nerd Iliad
  • Author: JohnDolan
  • ISBN: 9781627310505
  • Page: 258
  • Format: Paperback
  • The War Nerd takes on Homer in a new translation a classic gory, funny, tragic story in today s language.

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    1. This is by far the best modern English translation of Western civilization’s greatest epic. John Dolan, the author, is my husband. Whoa, wait, where are you going? Hear me out!Long before we met I was a hardcore Classics geek. My first crush was Alexander the Great. When my young peers were out getting wasted on Friday nights I sat diligently copying Greek noun declensions from Clarence W. Gleason’s A Greek Primer. My great goal in life at age 17 was to memorize Lucretius’s De Rerum Natura [...]

    2. I've read it before this release when the Author kindly allowed me to "peek in" the manuscript. It's a great re-telling of the Iliad in prose, surprisingly faithful to the original, but still likely to put a lot of people into the classic WTF state. After all, the Iliad is the original European war fable, a no one but the mighty War Nerd could tell it this way, with all the flesh, blood, carnage and grim humor that Homer may have intended in the original. As they say, grit doesn't translate well [...]

    3. Dolan puts Lattimore and Fitzgerald in the shithouse, to paraphrase Dr. Reo Symes. A superb re-telling of the Iliad, that succeeds in Dolan's goal of returning the epic to its wild campfire origins by emphasizing the humour, violence and action of the original to accomplish. There's a great moment where war god Ares wants vengeance for the slaughter of his son, but when challenged he can't remember his son's name. And that's one of the areas where Dolan shines–most translators have the wrong k [...]

    4. It would be hard to overstate the impact John Dolan has had on my education. I began reading the War Nerd, written under the identity of "Gary Brecher," after the now-fb-less Connor Sullivan posted one of his articles to me early on in my time in college- early enough that I was one of the ding dongs speculating, "COULD Brecher be Dolan???" While I pay my homage to the Gary Brecher persona, I'd have to say the Dolan half was probably more important to my education.There's a simple reason for thi [...]

    5. Besser als die sorgsam von Sex und übermäßigem Blutvergießen gereinigten, für die Jugend bearbeiteten Klassikerversionen meiner Kindheit, aber in der zweiten Hälfte ist mein Interesse doch erlahmt. Dafür kann John Dolan aber nichts, es liegt an der Geschichte. Anfangs passieren noch Dinge, aber dann geht es sehr lange nur noch darum, dass mal die eine Seite die Oberhand gewinnt und dann wieder die andere, und die Götter mischen sich in einer Weise in die Handlung ein, dass einem die bill [...]

    6. I wanted so much to give this book five stars. I love the Iliad, and I devour new translations. I've encountered this author's blog posts and he has a remarkably clear style that I really enjoy. And for the most part, he brings that clarity to his take on this ancient tale. But there are a few too many careless liberties taken with the myth for my taste. While I can understand changing accepted 'facts' (inasmuch as anything in myth can be accounted a fact), an author will normally have a reason [...]

    7. I confess that I never finished the Iliad when I was assigned it in high school. There seemed to be an interesting story somewhere in there, but the academic translation was impenetrable and life is too short to pretend to care about English class.But the original work was never meant to be academic prose. It's one of the great cultural epics of all time, full of violent murder, gory deaths, cheating bastard gods, family squabbles, and low humor. It was one of the defining epics of a violent, mo [...]

    8. I'm not ashamed to admit that I took several runs at The Iliad (Fagles) and couldn't get through it until The War Nerd Iliad, which I read in two sittings, completely engrossed.Not that I'm a scholar or something, but this is a translation of The Iliad that reads like a novel instead of an opportunity for a translator to show off his iambic chops or free verse chops or the written equivalent of one of those 90's guitar instrumentals.I get that The Iliad was originally read aloud around camp fire [...]

    9. A raw, gruesome and occasionally very funny retelling of the Iliad—written in flawless prose. Couldn't put this down once I'd started. The gods turn out to be fascinating and weird, and the humans are nothing like us moderns. I also liked how Dolan sometimes inserts himself into the narrative to provide some backstory or explain some historical detail. If you're a 'war nerd', enjoy weird books or simply never got around to studying the Iliad because it seems too daunting, this is for you.

    10. Tremendous -- crisp, clear prose chock full of gore, grime, lust, and terror. This isn't poetry, and it doesn't feel like a faithful rendering of the original Greek. No "Sing, goddess, the anger" here. Instead, Dolan helps us to understand the jokes (and there are some!), the mechanics and details of archaic warfare, the hierarchy and mores of proto-Greek society. He also puts the smoke, dirt, shit, and fear back in combat, something that the flowery prose of an Alexander Pope, say, might hide f [...]

    11. This isn’t the book I wanted from John Dolan. I’ve been waiting for years for another Pleasant Hell, but it seems he’s content to use the material that could be turned into another masterpiece memoir as anecdotes in his War Nerd pieces. Which is fine. I like the War Nerd and understand he has to pay his bills. But I’ve always held the unpopular opinion that Dolan was better than the Brecher persona. Pleasant Hell deserves to be read for a thousand years. That’s not something I can hone [...]

    12. Bar none the best version of Iliad written, and that includes R Fagles version. Dolan's almost movie-script like translation is way better than poem-form, never gets dull or repetitive, and his description of the gods visiting the physical realm is done in modern terms, you can almost feel the power of the supernatural, ie,-------------------"Then something comes over Odysseus, something huge. He is in god-shadow. Athena is beside him. He has met gods before and he knows the vertigo that comes w [...]

    13. This book was begun on a plane. Then finished in the line waiting for customs. I could not put it down. We all know the Iliad. An epic attributed to Homer. Often taught in class it can lose the thrill of adrenaline under analysis. Dolan revives the excitement in prose. This edition is replete with bravado and a call to arms. The events are recounted true to the story. The tone is one that would feel more comfortable in a sports arena. If the arena was covered in blood and everyone was given a ba [...]

    14. I really enjoyed this book, which is more than I can say of most translations of the Greeks I have read. Finally I understand why these things are called classics, because it really is a great story and John Dolan's storytelling ability is on display in this version. I know from listening to Radio War Nerd that he is a big fan of Jack Vance and the Dying Earth books and I was reminded of those books especially in the interplay between gods and humans. His gods have the same blend of benign amuse [...]

    15. I must’ve been around 15 years old when I first attempted to read Homer’s epic poem ‘The Iliad’ and even though I understood and enjoyed most it , it was quite a challenge to read back then due to its poetic nature of hexameters. I found this little tome by John Dolan a few days ago of a prose version of it and just for fun had a go at it. I think he made a brilliant job at portraying the poem’s multifaceted nature, from the slapstick comedy it contains to the ultra violence without lo [...]

    16. John Dolan translates The Iliad in modern language as war stories to be told around a soldier's campfire, and it's in this form The Iliad absolutely shines. You finally understand how much his own troops hate Agamemnon and laugh at Menelaus, how shallow, childish yet fearsome the Greek gods are as they casually interfere with the doings of man, and how gory the war between the Greeks and the Trojans really got.I found myself wishing I could immediately follow this up with a modern retelling of T [...]

    17. Great retelling of the Iliad in modern prose. I'm ashamed to say I remembered very little of it so I had to look to see if Dolan was taking liberties with the violence! The gods' intrigue and battles are riveting in prose. It is a great read.

    18. Probably best used as a companion to the Iliad, rather than a straight-up read. However, Dolan does an excellent job in re-grounding this foundational epic as the bloody, bizarre, superheroic soap opera that it was for hundreds of years. That alone should put it on any serious classicist's shelf.

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